Just a heads up, the following is long:
If you want to take a constructive look at what you said, and what I said, lets do so
Whoa, that's a lot angrier and longer response than I anticipated.
Nope, not angry in tone. Just a little annoyed.
There was no hint of anger in my post, no insult, no attack on you or your music.
Really? Because to someone who initially would first read your post, would definitely think it was in an angry tone, a simple insult. I never thought it was an attack on my music.
Here is where I think you started getting all offended. "Showing off", while it can bear negative connotations in certain contexts, generally refers to the "showing" of your, in this case, music to other people, which is its meaning in this context.
"Showing off", as you do admit, can bear negative connotation in not just certain but quite a few contexts. Nowhere have you mentioned that you intended it to mean for the "showing" of my music. In actuality, no where in your post have you ever stated that is what it was for. Again, for someone who reads through that post, they would take "showing off" as the original and more highly used contexts. If you did not mean it that way, then you should have stated that.
If you did take offense to the term "showing off" than you should have simply said that
That is what this response was for. It was rude for you to use that term. Anyone would agree that if someone posted that they were "showing off" their music, it would be offensive, and if not a bit rude.
not made such a ridiculously long and angry post where you repeatedly accuse me of attacking you and going off onto things completely unrelated to this topic
Angry? No. Never have I posted where I was angry. I was mainly neutral in tone in actuality, just a little annoyed at the rude comments you made. Even if you didn't intend for them to be so, that is how they appeared. So it would be very nice if instead of just simply posting a comment and saying something that is not taking in its more highly used context, to state otherwise. Actually, everything I said tied into each other. Read below
I don't care if you made the trailer it has nothing to do with this and that's just one example.
I don't expect you to care. I am simply stating this as a relation that I want to help with the game, and using a relative subject for a claim that can be backed up with evidence. If you look at what I said in whole about that subject here:
I just want to help. Same way I did when I did the trailer (Yes, I created the official trailer on the main page). Regalis seemed completely fine with that, and never saw it as I was "showing off".
Here, I state that I simply want to help the game. I also tie in a relative significance subject/creation. All I have wanted to do was help the game. Not make a personal thread. Evidence of past events is what I am bringing up, to demonstrate that I am not focusing on "showing off". Then I later state about Regalis being completely find and not seeing me as "showing off". This I used simply to state that I went into that situation the same way I did when making this topic, and yet, the creator of the game did not take it as myself making a useless thread or topic or subject, but yet... you do.
This is absolutely true. Personal threads become problematic because of how quickly they spring up and make constructive work difficult for other forum members. If each of the three of us made a personal topic that's already 4 topics including the original, and I'm sure there are plenty of others who make music who would like to make their own topics.
So then please demonstrate to me a forum topic created for general track use for the game, instead of low tones, that is also active. I would really enjoy seeing something with that purpose.
And finally a friendly suggestion of how you can have your personal topic and the rest of the forum can enjoy the Collaboration section without a bunch of personal threads.
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A friendly suggestion? "not useless topic filled environment."
That does not in any way seem friendly, it appears to be a rude comment on this topic. No where do you state before hand that it was a "friendly" suggestion. Next time again, you should read through your responses to make sure your words cannot be taken as rude comments, which they appeared to be.
All in all I think your response was childish, needlessly long, and rather silly.
Actually, I was simply stating you were being rude. A lot of other people would most likely have done the same thing...
I never attacked you or your music,
I never said you did. Nor did I state anywhere that you have attacked me. Again, you were just rude about it.
As the original topic not being suited for what you had in mind, then that makes me wonder why you posted your stuff there as well
Simple, I saw the post, and decided to post one track of ambience. As I saw that the other tracks I had were not ambience in any way, then I created this thread.
No where in here is it implied that this topic exists for any other purpose than to showcase your own music,
What I said "Hey, I do music for my films. So I basically do film scores. Well this got me into music, and started making music for games as well.
Here is some ambience and suspenseful music I have created for a game I am currently co-developing."
here is simply an introduction to what the thread is. Posting a thread about a subject, needs a jumpstart, something that can show people what they can post. I simply described what I do, what I have done, and gave examples for others to post as well.
no where does it say that this is meant as a general topic for music related to SCPs, no where does it say that all music made related to the SCP universe is welcome, no where does it explain why you chose to make a new topic, no where does it explain that the original topic was not appropriate for what you had in mind or how it is inappropriate
First off, it was created for the use of showcasing music. I stated my reason for posting music there, implying others can do the same as they wish. Second, I don't see the point in simply stating every singular reason for a thread to exist, people don't want to hear the long and old details of reasons that a thread exists, unless it actually has some grounds to it. This didn't require that sort of explanation as to why I saw the other topic not able to cover all about the generality of music for the game.
Let us also observe that you explicitly state that this music is "ambience and suspenseful" and yet now you claim that the original music topic is not appropriate for your "ambience and suspenseful" music because the original topic is made for "ambience"? Surely you must see the contradictions contained in that claim.
I would love to show you the difference
Here is something you posted about an ambience type of track of SCP-096:
https://soundcloud.com/slagar/096-concept-cleaner
That, is supense? yes. That is ambience? yes. Although you state and others state as well in the other topic that "This could easily be played over the current ambiance without interference as it's unobtrusive enough it'd just color the sound rather than cover or mix awkwardly with it." Here you are talking about a track on the old forum. That is a good track though
You state that it could be easily played over the current ambience, without mixing in awkwardly with it. If you listen to the 096 piece that you made, and look at the comment (I will add that comment you did was not about 096, but another ambience track), you will see how that is mainly low tones ambience.
If you look up at the music I posted.
Frozen is a "Piano/orchestral piece" Anything about suspense or ambiance? Nope.
Abandonment is a "ambiance track", any low tones or mix ins that are meant to lay over the music of the game? Nope. In fact, towards the end it progresses from an ambiance track, to an actual sound piece.
Bodies is a "suspenseful track", again, if you listen, not ambiance for each individual room, but for an actual event. Something that progresses with action.
Let us focus on an important part of this bit here. "All the music is mine" can only be understood as this topic is made for your music and just your music.
I have no idea what brought you to that conclusion, saying that "All the music is mine" is simply stating that I created the music I have linked. Not that this topic is "made for your music and just your music..."
If it didn't you would've communicated that all music artists are free to post their own work, but instead what you chose to communicate was "Thoughts? Opinions? Comments? Please discuss below" which tells others to discuss the music you've posted
By posting "Thoughts? Opinions? Comments? Please discuss below" Does not mean that It is restricted to simply discussing what I have created. By saying "please discuss below" I am implying that people can either talk about or give constructive criticism on the tracks I linked, or that they can talk about other tracks, whatever they would feel like discussing, as long as it was the music for the game, which could be anybodies...
You lay out what you want others to do here, and this topic acting as a general non-ambient music for SCPs is never, in any way, implied or directly communicated anywhere in the entirety of this thread until your needlessly rude accusations and attacks on me.
In actuality, if you would notice the difference between tracks, then yes, it is implied. Also, I am simply stating that what you said before was rude towards me, and that you should reword your responses or at least revise them from now on to make sure you don't have any statements that are more highly used to insult people.
I have shown how, using your own words, this topic was made as a personal topic for yourself and how, again with your own words, your music could have just have easily fit into the original topic.
Ah, as I did state at the very beginning and towards the end of my response "I understand your concern" and towards the end "I will take it into consideration, as I do everyone's opinion." Here I do say that I have listened to what you have said, regardless of it being rude. Even if you did not mean for it to be, you should have said so in the original post of yours.
I hope that this will be the end of an already needlessly long and fiery discussion and that we can move on and forget about this little quarrel. I also hope that this thread is either moved or deleted and any future offering of music for SCP games is either contained in the original thread or posted in the off topic section.
I as well hope the same. Now I used a claim, as well have you, and rhetorical devices such as Pathos and Logos. You have simply stated Ethos, which in generality, can be converged to say a falsified argumentative structure. Please, simply take this as a reason to read over your responses carefully next time you post on someones topic about being useless, or them showing off, regardless of your meaning by it.
Thanks again